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One night in August 2013, I drew a fake cover for Captain Murphy's ‘Between Villains’. I posted it to Twitter and the villain himself retweeted it, and so did Thundercat.

Thundercat and I started chatting over Twitter after that – fast forward to 2015, I'm working at digital ventures practice Josephmark and motion studio Breeder, and making pictures and music on the weekends.

Then ‘Where The Giants Roam’ drops, I'm nearing the end of a two week break where I've been spending indoors, drawing in my room. When I heard ‘Song For The Dead’, this part – 1:49 – gave me the idea to animate. I wanted to animate this few seconds of a transformation as the sound spins around in stereo. But I had a few days free, so I decided to block out a full video. Super rough, black and white, with NASA footage backgrounds – I had a bunch on hand that I found whilst researching for Breeder's The Expanse titles – and then I just sent it to Thundercat.

He loved it. So I was locked into it now, my first big solo animation. Naturally, the way I work, I made it even harder for myself – adding colours and extra seconds.

Six months later, I'm backstage at Thundercat’s show in Brisbane. Talking about art and Kendrick, drinking Hendricks.